tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15078815.post8881754209333088879..comments2023-09-25T21:22:28.439-04:00Comments on Cup Of Joe Powell: Romney Family Owns Voting MachinesJoe Powellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04326800254526438870noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15078815.post-25010731692057736372012-10-23T02:20:51.969-04:002012-10-23T02:20:51.969-04:00When I saw headlines for this story, I assumed it ...When I saw headlines for this story, I assumed it couldn't be true. Then I saw Forbes covering it; they're hardly a liberal rag. <br /><br />Quite frankly, if this issue doesn't disturb you, I am at a loss to explain why it should. <br /><br />Over the years, there have been numerous problems with electronic voting systems. They are vulnerable to tampering and worse yet, they can be tampered with and no one can tell - because there is no paper verification. <br /><br />I'm sorry but I don't believe this is a coincidence. Now it makes sense why the Republicans have been beating the drum for "voter fraud" all year - a solution for a problem that doesn't exist on any meaningful level. It was all a smokescreen for machine rigging.CabinFevernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15078815.post-37976923559861112672012-10-21T19:23:20.629-04:002012-10-21T19:23:20.629-04:00the Forbes article says a $4000 donation was made ...the Forbes article says a $4000 donation was made to Romney, then after this was known, a $250 donation to Obama. <br /><br />also Robin, if memory serves, the Tennessee Republican state legislature has now outlawed unions giving any money from dues to candidates or campaigns. corporations however, can give billions and never have to reveal where the money came from.<br />Joe Powellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04326800254526438870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15078815.post-49934269677865311942012-10-21T18:41:17.820-04:002012-10-21T18:41:17.820-04:00Please read Op Ed in Forbes: http://www.forbes.com...Please read Op Ed in Forbes: http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2012/10/20/romney-family-investment-ties-to-voting-machine-company-that-could-decide-the-election-causes-concern/<br /><br />And watch video of Charlie Rose October 4, 2012 show:<br />Computer Scientist Barbara Simons explains why voting machines are vulnerable to hacking; fraud, breaking down, and at the very least - appearance of impropriety (conflict of interest). <br /><br />Even if soldiers protected against tampering with machines during voting, they cannot guard against what can be done to the machine's electronics (fuzzy counting, lost votes, etc.) before and after the voting.<br /><br />Ask yourself "why did the Romneys and ex Bain executives want to invest in voting machines NOW?" and why did Hart - the company that owns these voting machines - contribute $400K to Romney campaign (and later $25K to Obama)? <br /><br />And what would you think if you heard that a challenger running for president in a South American country had bought up the voting machines? Don't be naive. We at least should have machines that give you a receipt for voting.jsbchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17331887183769143551noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15078815.post-66073344501950503462012-10-21T17:58:50.539-04:002012-10-21T17:58:50.539-04:00Obama does "own" voting machines...they ...Obama does "own" voting machines...they are called Unions. Bam! That joke just happened!<br /><br />Seriously, maybe the timing of this investment into voting machines is more related to the upcoming demand for same. The decision to use them in elections was already made and surely not controlled by the Romney people & PACS.<br /><br /><br />And re: Congress...amen, brother. Preach it!Robin Keithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15078815.post-79575143823143347382012-10-21T16:48:14.325-04:002012-10-21T16:48:14.325-04:00Giant multi-national corporations owning everythin...Giant multi-national corporations owning everything from steel wickets to chocolate chip cookies is not really a problem as I see it. <br /><br />However, when a company which raises and bundles millions and millions of dollars for a presidential campaign and associated PACs, and when that company includes the candidate's son as a chief officer and that same company has only recently bought voting machines being used in so many states - that is at the very least a very bad idea.<br /><br />Studies and audits from California to Michigan to Ohio to Florida all show critical flaws in the digital voting machines - and in most cases if an error occurs, then states usually throw out all votes made on that particular machine. That's why there was such a large national effort to require paper trails for digital machines - as a safety measure so that votes, thousands of them, would not be lost or just thrown out.<br /><br />I have attempted to be quite plain that I prefer Obama over Romney, true, and will continue to express that. However, neither party has much of a moral high ground - as I wrote recently, it's the Congress that's broken down and needs repairs the most.<br /><br />And oh yes I would express grave doubts if the Obama family owned voting machines too - but they don't. A political candidate's family and fundraisers should not own or control ANY company which counts votes. It is a terrible idea, conjures too many questions, and will allow - for some - the chance to challenge election results, a problem we really don't need.<br /><br />And thanks for reading and sharing your views, Robin. You're always welcome here!!Joe Powellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04326800254526438870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15078815.post-44362547562944979932012-10-21T15:48:14.505-04:002012-10-21T15:48:14.505-04:00Joe,
You are smarter than this suggestion. I wou...Joe, <br /><br />You are smarter than this suggestion. I would much rather you just repeatedly state that you don't like Romney basedonthe substance of his proposed policies. <br /><br />djuggler asks, "Why is the purchase of the Ohio voting machines by Tagg Romney 1) legal and 2) not all over the news?"<br /><br />Perhaps the answers are 1) this is just one of thousands of investments by the ooooh scary, rich guy Romney and 2) these machines can't be rigged in any candidates favor nefariosly as his questions suggest.<br /><br />Again, Joe...I know you. You are better than this. I felt the same way when I saw the suggestion that President Obama had succesfully "cooked" the jobs numbers. And, heard Hannity ask if he thought the President would take some late action in the middle East to make him look good. It's just silly talk. The issues alone seperate these two.Robin Keithnoreply@blogger.com